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Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 13:07:50 PDT From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #797 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Fri, 15 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 797 Today's Topics: CW - THE ONLY MODE! FCC Delays now at 17 weeks! PLEASE READ!!! Gray Areas of 'No Commercial Use' IPS Daily Report - 14 July 94 Listening to Comet/Jupiter collision orbs$196.micro.amsat orbs$196.misc.amsat orbs$196.oscar.amsat orbs$196.weath.amsat Re: Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work? TDD to PC? Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 14 Jul 1994 21:02:06 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!zeugma.csusb.edu!dbrown@network.ucsd.edu Subject: CW - THE ONLY MODE! To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <940713173256988@michaelr.com>, Ray Wade (ray.wade@michaelr.com) wrote: : On 07-11-94 STEVEN JACKSON wrote to ALL... : SJ> breaking into the tv programs, the local tv station played ---.. at : Its a morse oh (letter "O") so maybe it means "oh, s**t" as in watch --- is the letter O, but I think ---.. represents the numeral 8 instead. No idea what it'd mean, of course... -- Dan Brown dbrown@zeugma.csusb.edu Bill of Rights: RIP, 1994 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:48:40 -0500 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news2.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: FCC Delays now at 17 weeks! PLEASE READ!!! To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Scott Richard Rosenfeld <ham@wam.umd.edu> writes: >He said that upon his tour of the FCC license processing facility last week, >they now have SIX computer terminals, but only ONE person processing >licenses (this is, sadly, true). The FCC may actually consider volunteers Hmmm. Six terminals for each worker...sounds about right! :-) I do not understand why those folks aren't smart enough to put a tape on an answering machine telling callers what the situation is. Oh, well. 73 -Joe Keenan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 13:11:03 GMT From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@ames.arpa Subject: Gray Areas of 'No Commercial Use' To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <199407140433.AAA06611@max.tiac.net> chrisp@max.tiac.net (Chris Patti { Feoh }) writes: >I was thinking of using a laptop + TNC + HT and a PC + TNC + another HT at >home and using the laptop to connect to the home PC with packet <said home >PC runs UNIX so such things are readily possible>. > >One of the niftier uses for such a setup would be able to do things like work >on projects from *ANYWHERE* within the range of the two HT's running alone with >no help. > >But then I was thinking, would, for instance, using such a connection to work >on some shell scripts I was writing for my job be considered 'Commercial Use' >? Yes it would because it's directly related to your job. >What if I told my PC to dial up my Internet access provider and checked my >mail? I've paid them for a service, so is my dialing up their terminal server >and logging in a commercial transaction? No, that would be OK under the new rules, unless answering Email is part of your regular job. The fact that you pay for the internet connection is irrelevant. It's no different than the radio club paying for the phone line for the autopatch on the repeater. The test is if it's directly related to an income producing activity for you or your employer. If it incidentally makes money for someone else, that's not a problem. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 23:21:01 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.oz.au!yoyo.aarnet.edu.au!yarrina.connect.com.au!news.uwa.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!ipso!rwc@network.ucsd.edu Subject: IPS Daily Report - 14 July 94 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT ISSUED AT 14/2330Z JULY 1994 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY. SUMMARY FOR 14 JULY AND FORECAST FOR 15 JULY - 17 JULY IPS Disturbance Warning 18 was issued on 11 July and is current for interval 15-16 July ----------------------------------------------------------- 1A. SOLAR SUMMARY Activity: low Flares: none. Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 082/023 GOES satellite data for 13 Jul Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV: NA Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV: NA Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: NA X-ray background: A6.1 Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day. 1B. SOLAR FORECAST 15 Jul 16 Jul 17 Jul Activity Very low Very low Very low Fadeouts None expected None expected None expected Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 15 Jul: 080/020 1C. SOLAR COMMENT None. ----------------------------------------------------------- 2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: quiet to active, with minor storm period 15-18UT. Estimated Indices : A K Observed A Index 13 Jul Learmonth 21 2334 4533 Fredericksburg 15 04 Planetary 21 04 Observed Kp for 13 Jul: 2010 1122 2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST DATE Ap CONDITIONS 15 Jul 25 Unsettled to active 16 Jul 25 Unsettled to active 17 Jul 15 Unsettled 2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT Recurrent coronal hole induced activity expected 15-16 July. ----------------------------------------------------------- 3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY LATITUDE BAND DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH 14 Jul normal normal normal PCA Event : None. 3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST LATITUDE BAND DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH 15 Jul normal normal fair 16 Jul normal normal fair 17 Jul normal normal fair 3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT None. ----------------------------------------------------------- 4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY Observed DATE T-index MUFs 14 Jul 38 near predicted monthly values, with 15-30% enhanced 11-16UT. Predicted Monthly T-index for July: 30 4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST DATE T-index MUFs 15 Jul 35 Near predicted monthly values 16 Jul 30 Near predicted monthly values 17 Jul 30 Near predicted monthly values 4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT Slightly degraded HF propagation conditions likely 15-16 July due to coronal hole activity. -- IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney |IPS Radio and Space Services RWC Duty Forecaster tel: +61 2 4148329 |PO Box 5606 Recorded Message tel: +61 2 4148330 |West Chatswood NSW 2057 email: rwc@ips.oz.au fax: +61 2 4148331 |AUSTRALIA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 13:17:58 GMT From: pacbell.com!well!barrnet.net!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@ames.arpa Subject: Listening to Comet/Jupiter collision To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <302i4h$p7g@kelly.teleport.com> tigger@teleport.com writes: >According to an article in July's QST, "Hear the impact?," Jupiter >naturally emits decametric radiation between 3 and 39.5 Mhz and the most >intense emissions are at 8 Mhz. The earth's ionosphere blocks the lower >frequencies - especially during daytime hours - so the range between 18 >and 30 Mhz is studied more intensely by radio astronomers. The article >says that anyone with good 10, 12 or 15 meter antennas should be able to >hear the comet fragments collide with Jupiter (at least 21 of them). Dr >F. Reyes at U of Florida says the fragments might interact with the >planet's magnetosphere and create short bursts of radio energy in the >last 10 to 20 seconds before impact. Has anyone here been monitoring Jupiter on the HF bands recently? I listened years ago but have forgotten what the normal signals sound like. As I recall they were rather distinctive buzzsaw like sounds. How about some frequencies and discriptions of the signal in recent days. I likely won't have my HF antenna back up before Saturday morning (a tree fell on it, and I won't have it back up unless it quits raining long enough to restring it). I don't hear anything that sounds like what I remember listening on a 18 inch clip lead. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jul 94 15:26:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: orbs$196.micro.amsat To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-196.D Orbital Elements 196.MICROS HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR THE MICROSATS FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX July 15, 1994 BID: $ORBS-196.D TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: UO-14 Catalog number: 20437 Epoch time: 94194.18674123 Element set: 9 Inclination: 98.5896 deg RA of node: 278.6106 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011733 Arg of perigee: 112.1063 deg Mean anomaly: 248.1368 deg Mean motion: 14.29849139 rev/day Decay rate: 6.0e-08 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 23330 Checksum: 304 Satellite: AO-16 Catalog number: 20439 Epoch time: 94191.23243034 Element set: 807 Inclination: 98.5970 deg RA of node: 276.9521 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011864 Arg of perigee: 120.8244 deg Mean anomaly: 239.4105 deg Mean motion: 14.29902905 rev/day Decay rate: 2.0e-08 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 23289 Checksum: 299 Satellite: DO-17 Catalog number: 20440 Epoch time: 94191.18451979 Element set: 807 Inclination: 98.5982 deg RA of node: 277.2360 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011890 Arg of perigee: 119.6518 deg Mean anomaly: 240.5849 deg Mean motion: 14.30042562 rev/day Decay rate: 8.0e-08 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 23290 Checksum: 314 Satellite: WO-18 Catalog number: 20441 Epoch time: 94193.67915633 Element set: 810 Inclination: 98.5990 deg RA of node: 279.7005 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012641 Arg of perigee: 113.6115 deg Mean anomaly: 246.6399 deg Mean motion: 14.30016962 rev/day Decay rate: 1.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 23326 Checksum: 299 Satellite: LO-19 Catalog number: 20442 Epoch time: 94192.18636356 Element set: 806 Inclination: 98.5997 deg RA of node: 278.4886 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012869 Arg of perigee: 117.3153 deg Mean anomaly: 242.9341 deg Mean motion: 14.30113219 rev/day Decay rate: 1.1e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 23306 Checksum: 313 Satellite: UO-22 Catalog number: 21575 Epoch time: 94194.66619103 Element set: 511 Inclination: 98.4338 deg RA of node: 268.6283 deg Eccentricity: 0.0007042 Arg of perigee: 206.6952 deg Mean anomaly: 153.3878 deg Mean motion: 14.36923444 rev/day Decay rate: 4.5e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 15688 Checksum: 326 Satellite: KO-23 Catalog number: 22077 Epoch time: 94194.13082891 Element set: 406 Inclination: 66.0832 deg RA of node: 225.6621 deg Eccentricity: 0.0015044 Arg of perigee: 281.6382 deg Mean anomaly: 78.2949 deg Mean motion: 12.86286951 rev/day Decay rate: -3.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 9012 Checksum: 306 Satellite: AO-27 Catalog number: 22825 Epoch time: 94193.74755536 Element set: 304 Inclination: 98.6530 deg RA of node: 269.3004 deg Eccentricity: 0.0009155 Arg of perigee: 129.4928 deg Mean anomaly: 230.7062 deg Mean motion: 14.27628830 rev/day Decay rate: 4.0e-08 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 4133 Checksum: 301 Satellite: IO-26 Catalog number: 22826 Epoch time: 94192.74556263 Element set: 304 Inclination: 98.6522 deg RA of node: 268.3468 deg Eccentricity: 0.0009568 Arg of perigee: 134.0785 deg Mean anomaly: 226.1185 deg Mean motion: 14.27733130 rev/day Decay rate: 3.0e-08 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 4119 Checksum: 309 Satellite: KO-25 Catalog number: 22830 Epoch time: 94193.17093563 Element set: 309 Inclination: 98.5531 deg RA of node: 265.7524 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012396 Arg of perigee: 101.6312 deg Mean anomaly: 258.6268 deg Mean motion: 14.28059498 rev/day Decay rate: -1.0e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 4126 Checksum: 304 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jul 94 15:28:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: orbs$196.misc.amsat To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-196.M Orbital Elements 196.MISC HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR MANNED AND MISCELLANEOUS SATELLITES FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX July 15, 1994 BID: $ORBS-196.M TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: POSAT Catalog number: 22829 Epoch time: 94193.24660920 Element set: 297 Inclination: 98.6491 deg RA of node: 268.8716 deg Eccentricity: 0.0010740 Arg of perigee: 120.3722 deg Mean anomaly: 239.8519 deg Mean motion: 14.28032813 rev/day Decay rate: 1.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 4127 Checksum: 297 Satellite: MIR Catalog number: 16609 Epoch time: 94194.90801470 Element set: 679 Inclination: 51.6459 deg RA of node: 52.7244 deg Eccentricity: 0.0003477 Arg of perigee: 143.6748 deg Mean anomaly: 216.4466 deg Mean motion: 15.56583481 rev/day Decay rate: 6.924e-05 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 48018 Checksum: 333 Satellite: HUBBLE Catalog number: 20580 Epoch time: 94192.85852801 Element set: 505 Inclination: 28.4692 deg RA of node: 77.4963 deg Eccentricity: 0.0006071 Arg of perigee: 346.8534 deg Mean anomaly: 13.1893 deg Mean motion: 14.90638114 rev/day Decay rate: 4.26e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 3307 Checksum: 297 Satellite: GRO Catalog number: 21225 Epoch time: 94190.87753482 Element set: 114 Inclination: 28.4619 deg RA of node: 74.6101 deg Eccentricity: 0.0003465 Arg of perigee: 117.4235 deg Mean anomaly: 242.6711 deg Mean motion: 15.41023364 rev/day Decay rate: 2.166e-05 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 6044 Checksum: 264 Satellite: UARS Catalog number: 21701 Epoch time: 94192.89558286 Element set: 554 Inclination: 56.9857 deg RA of node: 60.0520 deg Eccentricity: 0.0005570 Arg of perigee: 103.1912 deg Mean anomaly: 256.9743 deg Mean motion: 14.96455115 rev/day Decay rate: 3.368e-05 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 15463 Checksum: 312 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jul 94 15:24:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: orbs$196.oscar.amsat To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-196.O Orbital Elements 196.OSCAR HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR OSCAR SATELLITES FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX July 15, 1994 BID: $ORBS-196.O TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: AO-10 Catalog number: 14129 Epoch time: 94176.41110075 Element set: 289 Inclination: 27.0856 deg RA of node: 321.0039 deg Eccentricity: 0.6024383 Arg of perigee: 189.2195 deg Mean anomaly: 150.8337 deg Mean motion: 2.05882336 rev/day Decay rate: -3.06e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 8295 Checksum: 298 Satellite: UO-11 Catalog number: 14781 Epoch time: 94195.06242397 Element set: 707 Inclination: 97.7856 deg RA of node: 208.5283 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011425 Arg of perigee: 178.8317 deg Mean anomaly: 181.2912 deg Mean motion: 14.69229240 rev/day Decay rate: 8.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 55425 Checksum: 322 Satellite: RS-10/11 Catalog number: 18129 Epoch time: 94191.83829016 Element set: 925 Inclination: 82.9253 deg RA of node: 311.3579 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011286 Arg of perigee: 326.8723 deg Mean anomaly: 33.1722 deg Mean motion: 13.72339043 rev/day Decay rate: 2.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 35315 Checksum: 294 Satellite: AO-13 Catalog number: 19216 Epoch time: 94194.95255508 Element set: 929 Inclination: 57.7505 deg RA of node: 242.1137 deg Eccentricity: 0.7218612 Arg of perigee: 345.7422 deg Mean anomaly: 1.7891 deg Mean motion: 2.09718797 rev/day Decay rate: 2.98e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 4657 Checksum: 339 Satellite: FO-20 Catalog number: 20480 Epoch time: 94189.41964946 Element set: 704 Inclination: 99.0382 deg RA of node: 337.2291 deg Eccentricity: 0.0540391 Arg of perigee: 291.4400 deg Mean anomaly: 62.9899 deg Mean motion: 12.83226051 rev/day Decay rate: -3.1e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 20685 Checksum: 311 Satellite: AO-21 Catalog number: 21087 Epoch time: 94194.16588839 Element set: 488 Inclination: 82.9469 deg RA of node: 123.4935 deg Eccentricity: 0.0036545 Arg of perigee: 13.7087 deg Mean anomaly: 346.5049 deg Mean motion: 13.74542040 rev/day Decay rate: 9.4e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 17315 Checksum: 332 Satellite: RS-12/13 Catalog number: 21089 Epoch time: 94194.88952093 Element set: 707 Inclination: 82.9198 deg RA of node: 351.6397 deg Eccentricity: 0.0030785 Arg of perigee: 35.6257 deg Mean anomaly: 324.6938 deg Mean motion: 13.74043526 rev/day Decay rate: 2.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 17231 Checksum: 338 Satellite: ARSENE Catalog number: 22654 Epoch time: 94188.21304092 Element set: 264 Inclination: 1.8958 deg RA of node: 98.1428 deg Eccentricity: 0.2918247 Arg of perigee: 185.7752 deg Mean anomaly: 169.5951 deg Mean motion: 1.42202950 rev/day Decay rate: -1.16e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 148 Checksum: 305 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jul 94 15:27:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: orbs$196.weath.amsat To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-196.W Orbital Elements 196.WEATHER HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR WEATHER SATELLITES FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX July 15, 1994 BID: $ORBS-196.W TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: NOAA-9 Catalog number: 15427 Epoch time: 94194.99686475 Element set: 874 Inclination: 99.0473 deg RA of node: 245.7977 deg Eccentricity: 0.0015281 Arg of perigee: 141.2505 deg Mean anomaly: 218.9765 deg Mean motion: 14.13628436 rev/day Decay rate: 8.4e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 49404 Checksum: 356 Satellite: NOAA-10 Catalog number: 16969 Epoch time: 94194.98167710 Element set: 771 Inclination: 98.5052 deg RA of node: 203.1638 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012179 Arg of perigee: 251.8027 deg Mean anomaly: 108.1826 deg Mean motion: 14.24897266 rev/day Decay rate: 8.1e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 40631 Checksum: 319 Satellite: MET-2/17 Catalog number: 18820 Epoch time: 94194.54056114 Element set: 335 Inclination: 82.5412 deg RA of node: 247.6202 deg Eccentricity: 0.0018062 Arg of perigee: 103.4929 deg Mean anomaly: 256.8248 deg Mean motion: 13.84718542 rev/day Decay rate: 5.2e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 32600 Checksum: 290 Satellite: MET-3/2 Catalog number: 19336 Epoch time: 94194.22136815 Element set: 302 Inclination: 82.5413 deg RA of node: 305.2575 deg Eccentricity: 0.0016030 Arg of perigee: 195.4260 deg Mean anomaly: 164.6376 deg Mean motion: 13.16967780 rev/day Decay rate: 5.1e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 28668 Checksum: 302 Satellite: NOAA-11 Catalog number: 19531 Epoch time: 94194.97891555 Element set: 692 Inclination: 99.1747 deg RA of node: 184.5475 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012899 Arg of perigee: 57.3264 deg Mean anomaly: 302.9149 deg Mean motion: 14.13002039 rev/day Decay rate: 7.5e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 29892 Checksum: 345 Satellite: MET-2/18 Catalog number: 19851 Epoch time: 94191.85639551 Element set: 302 Inclination: 82.5208 deg RA of node: 125.0543 deg Eccentricity: 0.0013991 Arg of perigee: 153.7603 deg Mean anomaly: 206.4260 deg Mean motion: 13.84367799 rev/day Decay rate: 4.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 27096 Checksum: 322 Satellite: MET-3/3 Catalog number: 20305 Epoch time: 94194.92403808 Element set: 89 Inclination: 82.5560 deg RA of node: 251.5016 deg Eccentricity: 0.0007665 Arg of perigee: 212.6308 deg Mean anomaly: 147.4475 deg Mean motion: 13.04409832 rev/day Decay rate: 4.4e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 22638 Checksum: 292 Satellite: MET-2/19 Catalog number: 20670 Epoch time: 94193.02564718 Element set: 807 Inclination: 82.5382 deg RA of node: 188.7333 deg Eccentricity: 0.0017853 Arg of perigee: 77.2924 deg Mean anomaly: 283.0207 deg Mean motion: 13.84189830 rev/day Decay rate: 3.0e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 20405 Checksum: 309 Satellite: FY-1/2 Catalog number: 20788 Epoch time: 94194.03417053 Element set: 13 Inclination: 98.8356 deg RA of node: 213.3492 deg Eccentricity: 0.0015573 Arg of perigee: 302.7604 deg Mean anomaly: 57.2060 deg Mean motion: 14.01356654 rev/day Decay rate: -8.2e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19732 Checksum: 287 Satellite: MET-2/20 Catalog number: 20826 Epoch time: 94192.24637361 Element set: 815 Inclination: 82.5260 deg RA of node: 126.8437 deg Eccentricity: 0.0013852 Arg of perigee: 348.2605 deg Mean anomaly: 11.8236 deg Mean motion: 13.83584780 rev/day Decay rate: 5.6e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 19108 Checksum: 303 Satellite: MET-3/4 Catalog number: 21232 Epoch time: 94192.41447599 Element set: 714 Inclination: 82.5397 deg RA of node: 152.4638 deg Eccentricity: 0.0013853 Arg of perigee: 120.2656 deg Mean anomaly: 239.9835 deg Mean motion: 13.16463320 rev/day Decay rate: 5.1e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 15454 Checksum: 306 Satellite: NOAA-12 Catalog number: 21263 Epoch time: 94194.99451251 Element set: 96 Inclination: 98.6161 deg RA of node: 222.1803 deg Eccentricity: 0.0013093 Arg of perigee: 154.5532 deg Mean anomaly: 205.6291 deg Mean motion: 14.22428011 rev/day Decay rate: 1.61e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 16431 Checksum: 268 Satellite: MET-3/5 Catalog number: 21655 Epoch time: 94194.19428742 Element set: 723 Inclination: 82.5532 deg RA of node: 98.3833 deg Eccentricity: 0.0013766 Arg of perigee: 126.6238 deg Mean anomaly: 233.6140 deg Mean motion: 13.16831903 rev/day Decay rate: 5.1e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 13988 Checksum: 313 Satellite: MET-2/21 Catalog number: 22782 Epoch time: 94194.41246650 Element set: 315 Inclination: 82.5469 deg RA of node: 185.6515 deg Eccentricity: 0.0023001 Arg of perigee: 148.4453 deg Mean anomaly: 211.8095 deg Mean motion: 13.83010359 rev/day Decay rate: 3.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 4371 Checksum: 285 /EX ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 13:14:02 GMT From: walter!dancer.cc.bellcore.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <77396187534n12@131.168.114.12>, <Earl=Morse%EMC=Srvc%Eng=Hou@bangate.compaq.com> wrote: > >>>I don't care if I have to learn 13 WPM for my general upgrade. >>>I don't care if it's 20 WPM. I'll learn it if that's what the FCC >>>says I gotta do. >Matt Rupert > >That's the right attitude! > >>Hi Matt, I have a hypothetical question for you. What would you do if >>you tried for hundreds of hours to learn to receive Morse code at 13 >>wpm and just could not do it? I can force my brain to function as a >>modem but I know somebody who cannot, and he is otherwise a very >>knowledgable, intelligent person and an asset to the ham community. > >What if...... >I couldn't pass the BAR because I didn't know anything about criminal >law, should I be allowed to practice any law? Bad example...your ability to send/receive morse code does not represent any competence which, if you didn't have it, would render you unable to be a good amateur radio operator. Indeed, your example could, at some future point, be acceptable if the BAR associations admitted new lawyers on a specialty basis...i.e. you could know nothing about criminal law but pass a bar exam on civil law only. >I couldn't back up a tractor/trailer rig, should I be given an over >the road truck driver's license? Good example, the "over-the-road" license is a specialty license and your inability to drive a tractor/trailer hasn't stopped you from driving a motor vehicle other than a tractor/trailor. Same can apply for CW requirements. I've suggested before that we retain 20wpm for Extra, but the current Extra Class phone privaledges should be moved to the Advanced license privaledges while retaining the lower 25KHz as Extra only based on a 20wpm test only. >I couldn't name all the bones in the body, >should I be allowed to practice medicine? Another bad example as such knowledge is critical to being in the medical field. As said before, competency in CW is not a precursor to being a good ham. >I couldn't learn to receive Morse code, should I be >allowed to get a ham license that would require the code? That's done today if there's a valid medical reason why one is unable to pass the relavant CW test for a particular license. The question is not should you be allowed, the question continues to be: Is the 13 and/or 20 wpm requirement given too much emphasis in testing for general and above because it alone is a pass/fail test of one mode of operation, whereas any other mode (SSB, packet, etc.) is tested in the written exam and is part of the total question pool as opposed to a stand alone pass/fail element. >But I only wanted to...... >practice divorce law. Per the above, that could happen in the future...why not? >drive forward. No comparison to the CW testing on any safety basis, which is the reason for the specific truck licensing requirement above and beyond your regular driver's license. >do brain surgery. Ditto my coments above, this example is so off the mark as any kind of analogy with CW for hams. The CW requirement does not put any ham in a position to "become a radio serice provider" to the public here your lack of CW knowledge would pose some threat to anyone you had dealings with. >talk on the radio. Indeed, then why does a ham need 13 or 20 wpm to gain access phone frequencies? >And I'm a real nice/knowledgeable/intelligent person and would be an >asset to the legal/truck driving/medical/ham community. > >Everything in life has its requirements, we meet those requirements >or don't participate. >Earl Morse >KZ8E I'm not against requirements that bear a reasonable relationship to the privaledges gained. Today's CW requirements as pass/fail to higher privaledges simply don't do that. Make the higher CW requirements unique to CW frequency usage only and I'd have no problem with them. 5 wpm is more than adequate to keep testing in line with current international treaties, testing for 13 and 20 on a pass fail basis to gain HF non-CW privaledges makes no sense at all. Again, I have no problem with testing for 13/20 if, and only if, such testing is strictly limited to gaining access to a select set of CW frequencies only. Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.) Morristown, NJ email via UUCP bcr!cc!whs70 201-829-2879 Weekdays email via Internet whs70@cc.bellcore.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 13:42:33 GMT From: pacbell.com!well!barrnet.net!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@ames.arpa Subject: TDD to PC? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <wcoCswL28.58r@netcom.com> wco@netcom.com (W. Clifton Oliver) writes: >Does anyone know of a device/circuit that would let a deaf TDD and a PC >with a modem talk to each other? Reason I ask in this news group is I >was told TDD is the same (Baudot?) as RTTY. The TDD is Baudot, but I don't think the modulation is compatible with regular phone modems. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 94 19:00:06 -0500 From: news.delphi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <shopsonCsnIEq.2HM@netcom.com>, <Ro8wRPy.joekeenan@delphi.com>, <301pb8$7l1@server.st.usm.edu>bb Subject : Re: Passed the test, time to wait... Suzanne Buice Cleek <sbcleek@whale.st.usm.edu> writes: >Joseph J. Keenan Jr (joekeenan@delphi.com) & Scott Hopson<shopson@netcom.com>, > >Congratulations on passing your tests! >It took almost exactly 9 weeks for my ticket to come. I'll stay with my Suzi: Thanks for the post. You lucked out...9 weeks is like a snap. I read a post here where the wait is now up to 17 weeks (and counting). 73 - Joe ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #797 ******************************